I don't think i will ever read something as impactful to me as this. The ending made me almost suffocate from the range of emotions.its so fucked. Its good. I love it :)
I could tell while I was playing this that I was going to have no idea how to write a review for it. There's so much in this story and it encompasses so many emotions that I feel like I don't have the words to easily sum up how I felt after reading it. There's enough in here to write an entire essay about. I actually had to take breaks while playing it because it was just too tense to play all in one go - I remember when I took one and then loaded it up again an hour later and immediately went "HOW AM I ONLY HALFWAY THROUGH?!" I felt like I had no idea how long it was going to be or how far through I was, which admittedly was a little frustrating, but I think strengthened the themes really well. The good and the bad started to blend together a bit and it felt like watching lives play out rather than reading a story, I had no way of telling what was going to happen next so everything felt like a surprise.
The cycles of better again, worse again, better again, worse again were really intense. It was nerve-wracking watching some people get better while others got worse, or some people get worse while others got better. The whole thing felt like watching someone balance plates and just waiting to see which one fell first. It tied in well with the...puppygirl factory? Which I did keep wanting to see explained but wasn't holding my breath for, since I could tell it was very metaphorical in nature. Where there's a cyclical churn of some sort going on. It really did feel like it highlighted how disposable society tends to view trans people as.
I think my favorite scene was the one where everyone was coming to Audrey for help, it was so nerve-wracking. It was soooooo much to watch her get increasingly drunk as just about everyone she knew started coming to her for advice on stuff.
THAT'S THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENED TO ME! Had to take a couple breaks only to come back the next day and see that there was still so much more.
I really had no idea what to expect from this game and I have no idea what I really got out of it. But I'm so glad I finished it.
I've played some fucked up games before and honestly I think the actual content in this game isn't nearly as bad as some other stuff out there. But it still FEELS like the most fucked up game I've ever played. It's not the content, it's the context that makes playing through this oh so agonizing.
Yeah, I agree - I've definitely played games that have more disturbing content in them (though this one definitely does have some disturbing content). It's more the oppressive feeling of tension without release.
This review addresses some very major events of the game that you should not spoil yourself on. please play loner dog before reading this, i give it as full of an endorsement as i possibly can.
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This was one of the most painful and beautiful works of art i have ever had the joy of reading. the music, both the cgs and character portarits, the aesthetic of this game is seared into my mind. the dithering is really fucking cool too. but enough about the beauty, on to the pain.
These are some of the most painfully real characters i have ever witnessed. every girl in this story is a real person, i've witnessed the patterns and archetypes of them many times before in my life. i know almost all of these girls without having met them. almost all of them are good people (fuck leah), and yet they continue to hurt each other. you can't blame anyone here for being like this, for being ruined girlthings with destructive habits. yet that only makes seeing things fall apart all the more painful. no one deserves any of this.
On a lighter note about the character writing, its really fucking funny too. i love these idiots so much.
Haley was both one of the most cathartic and wounding characters i have ever encountered. seeing her felt liberating. for so long i had felt like what was wrong with me was a unique failing, it was something i had never witnessed in other people, it felt like the act of exposing the fact i was like this to anyone else would destroy me, would actualise the fear of abandonment. they would revile me for this and be completely justified. getting to witness someone else that was like this changed that. there are so many thoughts i have had that she expressed nearly verbatim.
But god, seeing her was also so agonising. getting to witness her tearing apart her life, be abandoned by the vileness of the world and the apathy of those who claimed to love her, watching her realise her lack of a purpose or drive. all of this felt like watching it happen to me. the version of my self that lived in a worse life, that didn't have someone to love it, would have ended up like this, i can see it so clearly.
Deciding to read this with my wife was a great descision, because i think witnessing haley's suicide alone would have broken me for days. both of us agreed that it felt like watching me die. the same was true for the funeral service and the burial. seeing this happen to her is the strongest deterrant i could ever find for letting myself get worse.
Much like she was swallowed by the sun, this made me way weirder. that game helped begin the process of de-repressing my sexuality, of letting me realise that i am in fact this weird. loner dog sped up that process, make me realise that i am undeniably this much of a freak and i love it.
please never stop making art for fucked up girlthings like us <3
I fucking SCREAMED when I finished reading your comment
my chest feels warm. knowing loner dog and haley specifically are an anchor against getting worse for you makes me tear up and feel like it's all worth it.
I'm also really happy to hear it accelerated your de-repressing hehehe <3
What a cathartic, life changing game. There are tears streaming my face as I'm writing this not even ten minutes after finishing. This will forever be seared into my mind.
A small friend group of the worst people you’ve ever met goes around enabling the worst things about one another.
I feel sorry for Haley, Aubrey and Noni, everyone else can rot.
Which is telling, because 5 minutes into the game I hated Aubrey, but by the end I realized the alcoholic that accidentally shot her dick off is actually the sane one.
"the worst people you've ever met" is extremely accurate and exactly how I'd describe this game. But then they show you WHY these people are so fucked up and how they ultimately never had a chance in the first place. By the end of it all I couldn't bring myself to hate any of them.
Except for like Leah, Agro, Roaches, Noise, basically that whole friend group.
I just finished it. Almost threw up, cried my eyes out, felt my stomach turn more times than I can remember. and yet, this game is genuinely a masterpiece. I loved it, the depth is amazing. The relationships are written beautifully. as someone who has BPD, I related strongly to Argo and Nessa's relationship and could feel it deep in my heart and stomach, not to mention that I felt I could relate to each character at least once. I need more of this, there are definitely more things I want further explored but also I think it ended at a good spot so my need for more is entirely selfish. Amazing story, hated every character but I loved hating them because their reasonings and mindsets made sense while also having room to sympathize and relate to them. Im just rambling now and repeating myself, I loved this story so much. Awesome work. awesome visuals, and my favorite moment was everyone texting Audrey at the same time, it was art and I loved it and I could feel how overwhelming it must've been.
first hour of this I doubted if I would like it at all, second hour I was writing tearful messages to all the tgirls in my life about how none of them were allowed to die. 10/10 experience fucked me up on a spiritual level.
One thing I didn't say in my review: this game came to me at a time that I've been truly on the edge mentally for a while. For me, at least, it's been as bad as it's been in a long time. Every character in this game resonated with part of my experience, a very poor, queer, freak. This game made me reflect on my own sadness, my own ways of coping, and even inspired envy in me as someone who wishes deeply that I had more people in my life on my level of freak (I have yet to make a friend who does, though I have gotten close). No idea if it was in the intentions, but as dysfunctional as it is, there is a community portrayed in this game that is built on helping each other survive, no matter what that takes.
Oh god this really hit close to home. I feel like you really captured a lot of the nuances of being trans and queer on the margins of society. I see a lot of myself in basically all of the characters in the game. At some points it almost felt like I was seeing scenes from my life played out on screen.
Your writing is fucking excellent. Everybody felt like a real person with their own personality. In a lot of games with a lot of characters I'll start getting people confused, but that just straight up didn't happen here. I also somewhat unconsciously attached people I know irl to these characters, which made certain scenes hit way harder for me.
I also really liked the way the text boxes are layed out, I don't think I've ever seen that done in a visual novel before, and you execute it masterfully. It definitely helps to have a lot of the text conversations laid out like actual text messages, and I like how you can move everything around to better organize it.
Also the soundtrack, I love it! Is there anywhere that I could find it online?
I said this about another one of your games, but I find your work to be aspirationally good. It captures the essence of being a weird druggy puppy and all the trappings that come with that. I look forward to see whatever you and the folks on ur team work on next!!!
thank you so much for the high praise! I'm happy to hear how it all resonated with you hehe
as for the music, I maintain a google sheet with all songs I ever used. About 2/3rds of the loner dog music was licensed, but the last third was custom-written and you can find that portion on bandcamp!
It fucking warms my heart to be told my work is aspirational to you. Sadly haven't gotten around to playing your stuff after wasteland girls, but I really liked what I saw there already so I'm sure you'll do even greater things :3
This was genuinely very beautiful. I was honestly expecting something just okay, or unpleasant, but this was so, so, so incredibly well-written!
As others have probably said, the character writing and world-building in general was so fleshed-out in a way that made these characters feel more human. Even their "unpleasant" parts stem from somewhere, and don't come off as being used for shock value.
Thought this was going to just be edgey yurislop... but this is a yurigem!
This was absolutely amazing. Horrible and raw and painful and beautiful and grounded and real in all the best ways, which only makes the occasional surreal moments hit all the harder for it, forcing you to resolve what the fuck it all means rather than just passively reading.
(editing in a longer one from discord now i'm less of a mess in the immediate aftermath lol)
I came to write this after being moved to tears many many many many times by LONER_DOG and felt the need to like, express my absolute unadulterated love for it. There's a beautifully brutally honest way it shows these absolute fucking disasters making mistake after painful mistake that just... It feels so raw and horribly true to the lives of myself and other traumatised queers around me.
I often get called a miserable edgelord or whatever, with certain spheres of the greater queer community disparaging the fact that i can't get myself to deeply engage with innocent wholesome fluffy works of art. This is one of those pieces that shows exactly why I can't immerse myself in works like that, because when have our lives ever not been messy and unfair? What honest depiction of queer joy and love could possibly be complete without showing the pain and struggle that defines so much of our lives? To sanitise our existence is to diminish that joy and glory, cheapen it by making it look so damn easy and to make a mockery of those of us who don't always get happy endings.
The scene of Audrey and Maya trying to talk Haley down lingers in my mind. I've been each side of that awful fucking situation at different points in my life; burning bridges amid my self-destruction, or having to cut myself off from someone I've loved who will destroy me if I let them drag me down with them, or feeling the long-suffering exhaustion of desperately trying to save someone who makes you genuinely miserable because how the hell could you live with doing nothing? The fact that it doesn't end well only makes it more painfully real. I haven't had to bury any of my friends yet, but that's probably only because I don't fully know what happened when the direst cases stopped replying and disappeared forever.
I see a lot of myself reflected in Haley, an uncomfortable amount really. I've always found safety and comfort in power, in hurting those I love however I can to keep them in my grasp. I know that jealousy, I know that self-hatred, I feel the ever present allure of making the world go away in an ugly blaze of addiction and destruction. But I've also made it farther than plenty of other girls with shallower scars than me. And while ageing has always terrified me, this game has made me very, very, very proud to have made it a lot of the way towards my 30s. Thank you so much for this piece of art, Snek. It's going to stick with me for a long, long time.
I picked this up because I needed something fucked up to help me process my trauma and I am weightless now. I have been ranting and raving to my entire friend group about the experience as I play.
Every character here is human, flawed and wonderful in their own ways. They remind me of my friends, but way more messed up. They also remind me of myself, and how I have felt the way many of them have, and acted the ways they have. I also hate (complimentary) how kinetic the use of multiple text boxes and image pop ups was. Truly using the medium to convey something in a way mere words can't. I'm amazed. I'm inspired. I'm exhausted.
extremely real and raw and visceral in a way that made me rly emotional and rly inspired to make more scrungly art!!!
i usually bounce off of this genre of like, transgressive messy tgirl hyperviolent wacky sex stuff narrative but i rly rly resonated with some bits here and am rly grateful i got to have and share this experience with other beautiful women!!!!!!
deffo my fave of the vn jam games ive played so far, and god i love the audio/visual design so much, totally gonna cop everyone you linked on bandcamp in the credits x3
There is a vibe this game has that I've really been looking for and only now have found. The vibe in question being a sense of apathy and misery both in the world and characters. While I don't like everything about this game, those dislikes are more of a taste thing and not objective criticism. To me, this story was simply a group of (mostly) friends who get their shitty and mentally I'll existence pounded by life. It seems that Hailey and Maya are the main focus for this story due to the jam it was submitted to, but almost all the other characters are subject to complicated and shitty relationships. And the dynamics and interactions between these individuals are extremely interesting to see.
Something I was really surprised with was how a not small number of characters were each written to be memorable and behave uniquely. If you told me a character's name, I could instantly put a face to it and tell you about their personality and what they did in the story, that is not an easy thing to pull off as a writer. I was also surprised at the comedy this game was able to pull off, especially with Audrey, I think I audibly laughed like 2-3 times during this thing.
Story aside, the game was made really well. I liked the game's style and its art, and if I recall correctly I only caught one spelling mistake. What I didn't like however was the use of things like "LMAO" or keyboard spamming in the voice lines. I don't mind it when characters are texting of course, but when it's in-person dialogue it just felt weird, I suppose this is a preference however.
Great job to everyone involved in this game's creation, and if it's not a problem, I'd love to ask questions about the writing process.
Well I wasn't expecting a game jam game I picked up at near random just because the art ruled to actually be a genuinely excellent work of fiction by any metric but wow okay here we are!
Damn, all of these screwed up mentally ill characters feel so painfully real and lovable and it hurts so much to see them ruin their lives but it makes those rare moments of warmth so delightful. The bleak, sometimes cozily bleak atmosphere is phenomenal and the writing is routinely beautiful, haunting, and hilarious. This is just a damn solid piece of work.
Anyways I will now vaguely spoil things.
I love Maya and Haley's relationship, where you think the "owner" is the independent one and if you squint there are these hints that Haley is genuinely worried about Maya being abused by Roaches... but all of that light is utterly snuffed out by her manic insecurity. Maya's later sentiment, that she loves Haley dearly but can't be what she needs, is so heartbreakingly true to life.
I feel like I have an Argo paragraph in me, but like nah, it's just a vibe? Love Argo, it's so cool and kind but so empty and anxious and it's so so easy to feel for it and get inside its head. I love that little conversation with its armchair therapist about how its relationship problems stem from it having no inner core and struggling to understand how more complete people feel. And I've gotta feel a kinship with a vegan (I think) character who has existentially terrifying genetics.
And yet still, I think I identified with Audrey the most. That scene at the canyon, where everyone trusts the cool, responsible* friend to lend them an ear... Oof, I touched on it with Maya but this game absolutely nails the pain of really caring about people who have terrible mental health, unable to do anything for them without destroying yours. That scene was absolutely harrowing AND ALSO VERY FUNNY but god it was such a vivid nightmare- Absolutely delightful use of the chat window UI to make this one scene into such compelling chaos.
Finally, the ending is just beautiful. Like, y'know... Sometimes the things we can do for people aren't enough, but sometimes they are, and there's nothing to do but carry our grief and be kind where we can. Damn.
Damn...
An excellent showing by everyone involved. Thank you for making art!
Just stayed up way too late playing through this. Incredible. Too tired to word things well but you write dialogue so real and many points throughout the story felt like being stabbed. Was captivated the whole time. Also rlly great visual/audio direction, and incredibly funny. The way everything was individual windows was extremely fun. Incredibly entertained by the unfortunate coincidence web of mutual tgirl connections bc it really is just like that sometimes.
We've said this about a lot of people's games but the love for fucked up girls rlly comes through and is lovely. We really love all of these characters. <3
edit: God yeah this is still sticking with us the next morning. Not many more coherent thoughts but auuugh!! waugh!! its good.
the art work, the moveable dialogue boxes, the many conversations going on at once, the updates of others' lives periodically, the EVERYTHING!!!!111!! the aesthetic is so good you nailed it. also the ost?? banger.
i relate to them all a bit so much, i love nessa she is me i am her. i need more of her tbh, please. xelia is SO FUCKING COOL TOO i wanna be her friend. the characters all feel like they're alive even outside of the game and before i even get to know them and im getting to see a snapshot of their lives and i love it so much. sorry, i keep saying love because its TRUE this is a gem, my game of the year.
it makes me want to check out your other work now, you've got me as a fan. please keep creating <3
edit: its the next day and i still can't stop thinking about this <3
TLDR; This is astonishingly good and severely fucked up. If you are, or have been at some point, an outcast, queer, and terminally online, and you're down to read some fucked up shit, this will probably hit for you too.
LONG THOUGHTS RAMBLE: I connected with the story so much more than i thought i would. At first i couldn't keep track of all of the characters, but after sitting with them for a while, they are so much like people i've known and situations i've been in. Enough to make me reflect on my own life and my friends.
Can't say i've experienced the sheer level of violence present in most of the story. But playing text therapist for friends, new relationship mania, struggling to adapt to grief, devastating mood swings, wanting to help but not being able to -- all the emotions around that were so specific and hauntingly familiar.
Being able to write 5-8 main characters whose perspectives are switched between is a pretty incredible feat as well. Wouldn't have been the same without it. I think having everyones perspectives is what made me so reflective while reading this. When have I been in these situations, and what have I done?
The way everyone is deeply morally gray, deeply flawed, is so well written. Your first impression of someone may be that they're nasty, but later you see their redeeming qualities. Or you meet them and you're like "this person seems pretty nice" and then their awful qualities are revealed later on. It's impossible to be a perfect friend to your friends no matter how deeply you love. So many of these relationships get close to abusive but don't actually cross that line. And that feels reflective of the world -- people can vascilate between insensitive, loving, thoughtful, self-absorbed, and distractable so easily.
I have so many thoughts I'm definetly forgetting a whole chunk of them, but this review is plenty long. Thank you for creating this thing that is so unique and unfiltered in its beauty and its ugliness.
Also That scene between Nessa and Argo scratched such a specific itch for me with its combination of gentleness, emotional intimacy, and intoxicating violence -- thank you <3
Don't really know how to write comments, but gonna praise this work! it is soooo good. Haven't finished it but I very liked the aesthetics and design choices in this game, also the music! I honestly could sleep listening to some of them, great choices on those! The moveable dialogue boxes is pretty cool too, never seen those done in VNs i played before. The story is super messed up,, and so good,, The characters are awesome,, I LOVE it!! it makes me want to see through your previous games, and the next ones! also don't know how to end this comment. Thank you for reading! and making this game. puppyface :3
I hope you enjoy your time with my other works too ehe, have fun looking at my tech stuff evolve over time lmao
just fyi, by now there's an OST on bandcamp and for all the licensed tracks I maintain this spreadsheet, in case you're really into some of the tracks uwu
Only a few minutes into this and I could already see all the hard work you put into scripting and presentation that you were telling me about before, the different windows and pop-up notifications for different dialogues and narration boxes (which I could move around, super cool), the sprites as little square icons, everything including the sound design fucks very hard, it’s all gives such a vivid image of like… grunginess that I’m already acclimated to with your work, but you keep polishing it with every game, it’s really cool to see.
And of course the art is exceptional as usual, not just the purposefully simple and claustrophobic icons for each character, which show just enough for their personalities to come across, with some really nice backgrounds that had me guessing for a while; part of me thought they were different angles on a clock on each of those backgrounds lol. But still, both those and the CGs were gorgeous and really added to the feel of the VN.
Regarding the cast, they all immediately jump out at you, their personalities are loud and imposing, and with so many of them initially it feels a little hard to tell them apart aside from their portraits, but as I played the game I like that I began to differentiate their very specific brands of mind-rotedness and various neuroses (Haley’s burning anger which at first was hard to differentiate from the rest of the cast but now feels all the more present and tragic in retrospect, Nessa’s seemingly chill but also kind of jealous and vindictive attitude, Audrey’s weird maturity and desire to help despite not giving a shit about her body, etc.) and it’s your writing that really makes that work. Because as a story I definitely feel like you’re initially asking us to hang on a bit, to get to know these fuck-ups before passing quick judgment, kind of like Argo when it first meets them all in pretty much the same way the reader does. I thought that was a really neat way to portray that.
Also a quick aside to point out just how fucking funny this VN is. Like, there were so many out of left field lines and parts worthy of a screenshot, these fucking idiots are so entertaining when they’re not being horribly sad, sometimes both at the same time. “One of my friends shot herself in the dick” nearly made me choke.
And that kinda goes hand in hand with another thing I noticed that feels very real even if normally you’d think it seems unrealistic in writing, that being how when Argo and Nessa (or other combinations of characters) start talking for a while, that outer layer of internet irony and general disregard for everything slowly gives way to more genuine conversations and emotional dialogue, much like how sometimes it works when meeting new people. It’s arresting when it first comes up, to the point it felt a little sudden at first, but I’ve definitely had those types of shifts in conversation too.
I can definitely see the Dennis Cooper inspirations in this. I unfortunately haven’t had the chance to find copies of the George Miles cycle yet, even secondhand, and have only read The Sluts, but this strikes a very similar chord while still being very much your own game, sharply so. It was also really neat to see you tackle a more down to earth story (or as down to earth as all this shit can be) as opposed to your two previous Yuri Jam entries. The fascism and the awfulness of the world is still there of course, but in this one it’s more something the characters have to weather as they try to also weather themselves and each other, than anything they have a chance to strike against. And while the opposite is what I really praised ‘She was Swallowed by the Sun’ for, you really made sure to up the ante on the transgressive queer shit on this one, so I really have nothing to complain about, this was genuinely incredible and sickening in equal measures.
A lot of parts were very difficult to get through, and you can definitely take that as a compliment. Yet they weren’t the more graphic scenes, like all the cutting (which I did have to speed through a little) but the ones with just characters talking, which shows how strong the characterization and writing was for this one. Special shout-out to the absolutely horrible/funny/tragic part where Audrey is just trying to chill and ends up acting as a therapist for her entire friend group and inadvertently speaks to Haley for the last time. Without a doubt my favorite scene in the entire VN, my heart rate was a mess by the end.
Also on the topic of Audrey, I really love her. How is it that this idiot who shot her dick off is the one everybody comes to for advice? And it’s clearly not a new thing, it took me a while to recognize it but Audrey does have a certain… maturity? Emotional common sense? That makes her stand out amongst her friends because she’s the one everyone knows, and she’s the one kind of in the middle of all the drama without really partaking in it, and you can see how exhausting it is, I love it. I was kind of working on a similar character to her, so she quickly became one of my favorites. That, and that out of the entire cast she’s the most like the characters from your previous VNs.
“Nessa can’t remember when she last wanted to see Argo” Ouch. Just a very impactful and to the point line, really loved it.
Speaking of Nessa, I feel like she’s the only one from the group I didn’t get a very good understanding of by the end of the game. Maybe it’s because of her avoidant personality, but as the game progressed I felt kind of like Audrey, wanting her to step away from Argo a little so I could get a scene with her and her inner thoughts, her life and all that. Obviously there’s a bunch of characters already and it’s impossible to give all of them a lot of screentime, but I do wish we’d gotten a little more of Nessa, especially with how in-depth we got to know Argo.
One thing I wanna mention is that a lot of this game gave me the specific kind of ‘magical realism’ vibe where it’s not actually clear at any point if that’s what the setting is or where the story is going, as opposed to being blatant, which I love a lot, especially with The Hole and all of that. There was definitely a level of detachment at some points simply because of cultural differences in how queer groups are and act like, I think, but that never really got in the way because the characters were so entertaining.
A lot of this game is gonna stay with me for a while, as with your previous works. I feel like I still have to process what happened to these characters… If nothing else, your VNs never fail to inspire me to write and get better in that way, I always feel a bunch of ideas blooming in my head while I read your stuff.
Anyway uhhh this has been pretty rambly and long so far, so a few quick-fire thoughts before I go. For a second I thought Harsh Noise’s glyphs had something to do with SwSBTS? Roaches… I really don’t know how I feel about Roaches, I’ll be pondering on that, I did feel like Audrey toward her in some parts. Love Noni a lot. Fuck Leah. I loved how complex of a character Maya was. Yeah.
Cuppy dog city was not what it was advertised at in those tumblr posts, but I loved it nonetheless.
It feels tragically poetic to read your comment now. It's the last comment on LD before all adult content on itch was delisted, and I wouldn't want anyone else but you to have that ..."honor"... if you can call it that. I appreciate your deep and insightful thoughts always. It delights me to see that you found joy and humor in these idiots. I audibly lost my shit at reading your reports on the chaos of Audrey's catastrophe meltdown, I FUCKING LOVE how you read into all these things, and every single word you typed out here makes me feel all warm fuzzy and content inside.
That you're familiar with Dennis Cooper as an author is so sick actually? Hell yeah. Followed up by you describing the ways in which I still made this VN feel like my own is such a visceral and positive feeling. Thank you.
I share your point about Nessa, she's the one character I wish I had fleshed out a bit more, but such is the game jammy nature.
It's funny to bring up Noise's tattoos but yeah, this and the myopia games are totally distinct. I also thought about how LD and SWSBTS exist so diametrically opposed to one another in much the same ways you describe, and that definitely is also a reflection of my life at large. The things I experienced as I was writing WTSRTS/SWSBTS are notably different from the things I experienced in the last few months.
One thing I fucking love about your reviews is always giving me new words to chew on. I'm stupid as fuck when it comes to actual cultural canons outside of niche faggot games online, so you giving me "magical realism" to sink my teeth into understanding will definitely be a thing now that I'll use to maybe even retroactively understand my own work better, who knows.
Ultimately, inspiring you to write, setting ideas off to bloom, as you put it, is one of the most beautiful things for me to hear. Thank you for your time and words, ttyl <3
I just finished reading through this and... wow. It was a lot. Your writing is beautiful. I loved seeing the narration just tell me what all the different characters were doing at that given time... and I loved the focus on many different characters, seeing their lives intertwine in interesting ways. I also want to shout out the scene where Argo and Nessa do acid together. That was beautiful; not just the way you wrote it, but also the sort of visual overlay you put over the scene for the fractals and stuff. There's so much going on in this one, I don't know what else to say other than amazing work. I feel hollowed out by it all (positive).
hehehe thank you! the "small update enumeration on all characters" thing is a device I straight up lifted from Guide by Dennis Cooper, and it actually also helped me keep the plot straight during development lmao. I'm glad you liked it :3
The characters felt like they have lived, not in a physical sense but that they have thoroughly had their own unique sets of perspective and experiences, that they have all come together and have been severely fucked and trying to do the best they simply can.
No one character in this story is underdeveloped. Everyone has a distinct personality, flaws, and characteristics. I especially loved the portraits for every character, which gives them so much life.
The pure, raw, unadulterated emotions radiating through the text kept me yearning for each next line. I read this all in one go, and I cannot count the times I was awestruck by the characters and story
An excellent VN. Horribly amazing. Emotionally Charged. God. I wish I could read this again. I want to read this again.
FUck yes I am so happy you enjoyed your time with all the characters <3 likewise, I am awestruck at your compliments ehehehe~~ thank you for the kind words >.<
I just wanted to say that this has been the best thing I've read all year and it's so wonderful and fantastic and it just spoke to me in a way that many thing haven't. I love it and it's one of my favorite VNs of all time, I'm gonna go and read everything this author has ever made now :3
idk where to begin with this other than to say that this is my favorite piece of art ive experienced this year
finished it in one sitting and then thought abt it for a few hours and went to bed, i then woke up n almost immediatly burst into tears cos i was thinking abt everything in this game n how beautiful, sad and overwhelming it all is.
i can't overstate how close to home this all hit for me, every character feels like a different part of me or someone ive known, the entire game made me feel so uncomfortably seen and understood for who i am and the way my brain works in a way very few things have.
love as violence and violence as love
i hope this is somewhat comprihensible im kinda just rambling cos this affected me a lot, thank you so much for making art like this its so special <3
also seeing it/its protags makes me so happy n seen :'3
love as violence and violence as love, you put it beautifully yourself <3
It floors me to read your comment, and I'm eternally glad I could make you feel a little more understood in this cruel world nya~ felt a dire drought of it/its protags (also for personal reasons myself hehe) and you pointing it out feels so comfy ehe
Your words fill me with warmth and I thank you so so much for reading and leaving a comment ^^
the first VN i played for this jam and im glad it was. it’s brutal, honest, stylish, personal, and about as intense as the name suggests. after reading this, i realize that it makes sense that the snuff girlies have an insightful and touching understanding of death, and, by proxy, life. will definitely be revisiting this dev (after some time to recover, bc. woof!)
A really wonderful experience that played to the strengths of the creators. Messy, brutal, overwhelming and mundane feelings. i was very impressed with how cohesive everything felt, and how engaging the writing was. thank you for sharing.
i only just now read this yesterday, i immediately downloaded it and went through it in one singular sitting! It's perfect, thank you so much for creating this, i absolutely loved this and the strong message at the end! I am excited what you will make in the futue!
also holy hell you made this for free??? i will definitely drop some money on the next project i download from you then! well deserved!
hehe thank you! I'm glad you got around to enjoying it so much ^^
I used to have donations enabled but itch.io (or payment processors rather) made it against ToS to pay for adult games, so it's just all free now. I have a patreon set up as kinda a tip jar, and anyone can still donate through my sfw projects,tho I never expect anyone to
jesus fucking christ this is so good. It's definitely one of those if-you-get-it-you-get-it games for sure. I really appreciate so much of it. It feels like a shattered mirror of a game to me, and though some of the pieces aren't necessarily pointed at me, the ones that are reflect with crystal clarity. The writing is really good, it did such an amazing job of weaving together multiple scenes happening simultaneously in a way that didn't feel confusing at all, everything just flowed so well together.
The sheer pain, misery, anguish of the girls and dogs living not just in hell but in a decaying corpse of a world is so potent. To me, Snek is best at portraying these dead, rotting worlds following girls and its whose freakish nature puts them in the funnel of reality's meat grinder, desperately trying to claw their way out and bring as many others with them as they can. Loner Dog feels almost like the logical endpoint of that concept, a definite peak in it's portrayal of this from the few of it's games I've played. It's violently hopeless to me, a constant assertion of the impossibility of a meaning besides to help your fellow sister and try to enjoy the little of life you can squeeze into the margins you've been shoved into; "you deserve a tomorrow worth knowing" is a chapter title that really really stuck with me for sure. The little bits of hope or kindness in the game are fought for tooth and nail, the characters have to go far out of their way for it almost always, and when not it's often just a bandaid on the bullet hole, something to try and ease the pre-existing overwhelming pain of their situation. A few of the situations were uncannily realistic, written in a way that shows a real familiarity and understanding of them, the fucked-up-ness of it. "The world is not a gentle place" is another chapter title that stood out to me; not only is it not a gentle place, it is actively cruel and antagonistic towards the happiness and existence of these characters, as reality often feels to myself and many others like me.
As for characters, I really really like all of them honestly. All of them feel like people I've either been or met, and they feel so raw and real, freaks like those I know and love, if not a bit more intense. The intensity serves the aesthetic and feeling of the story quite well though. Haley's story is especially tragic as I'm sure anyone who's played it would agree, but it's a familiar tragedy. All too familiar, a zing from moving in a direction my deeper scars make difficult from nerve damage, if that makes sense. Harsh Noise might be my favorite character because of just how checked out they are the whole time, they're really cool I think even though they're kind of just on the sidelines the whole time save for a couple scenes. Their tats are so cool, also I have an affinity for using "Noise" as a name because of things in my own life, so I just kind of immediately thought they were cool.
The music is really really well done and chosen, I want to use them for background music when I'm talking to friends a lot of the time now. The art is so good and fits it so well. I could gush about this game endlessly. Amazing work. Another one I'll likely be thinking about for a long time after this.
aaaaaaaaaaaaa !!!!!!! gosh your comment feels unreal. Thank you, truly from the bottom of my heart, for your words jfc
I could gnaw at all the things you wrote forever, and how warm it makes me feel to see an interpretation as deep and thorough as you've presented here. I really struggle to meaningfully reply to you besides going "aaa yes we're all fucked up I'm glad you fuck with this game <3" to everything you wrote, but I hope this conveys
Seeing the meanings of chapter titles and nihilism and character arcs reflected back at me in such an empathetic lens feels so wonderful. Thank you for your words Palette >.<
One thing I love is how everyone talks about different characters they see themselves in / are their faves. You're the first to bring up Noise and that's so cool of you <3
I also updated the song credits spreadsheet I keep for easy access. Might have to look into an OST release lmao
This game was genuinely so crazy I'm still thinking through everything. The character portraits and backgrounds are so good and evocative, the characters are all so great and horrible and fucked up. It brought up a lot of memories and emotions about trans community, I full cried like, 3 times. It also really makes me want to try making something myself again, truly a really exceptional piece of art. It's the first game of yours I've played (via going through game jam submissions) and I need to now check out the others.
Thank you so much for your comment, it means so much to me to hear how much you've been affected <3 I'd love to see you get inspired and also make some art!!!! (tag me if you do :3)
I'm still processing it but goddamn that was an amazing vn, was just gonna read a little bit of it but ended up not being able to put it down and read it all in one go. this is def gonna be stuck in my brain for the next few weeks
Honestly like, HOLY FUCK!!! I very rarely play things with such intense CWs (and I very nearly didn't finish the game because of them) but I'm very glad I did. What an unabashed exploration into sexuality, grief, and queerness. The things these characters did made me sick, but the context in which these characters were forced to endure and try to survive in made it all make sense. I don't know if I "understood it" exactly as you intended and there's always the chance that it was just a fun way to explore some more fucked up kinks (and even then, more power to you!) but I do think that there is IMMENSE value in the story being told. How people endure in such a fucked up and downright fucking EVIL society (the hole, holy fuck.) would be equally as fucked up, and it's not hard to see the parallels to what Trans and Queer people have to endure day-to-day. What a story, fuck.
Fuck yes this is awesome to read!! I feel honored you stuck with it to the end hehe
And I can absolutely confirm, it's not just exploring fucked up kinks (tho that's also fun); There are so many thoughts about queerness and transness and community I poured into this lmao
came across this randomly late last night during a pretty heavy depressive episode, didn't expect to find such a beautiful piece of media. it comforted me significantly and will most likely stick with me as a comfort piece. the music helped drown out the bad thoughts, discovered a new coping mechanism and im not against it. even the day after the game and its writing is still painted into my brain magically and hauntingly wonderful
without spoilers i can relate to a good chunk of the characters and their more emotional moments,'specially haley with recent events in my life. (as well as the large possibility that i am undiagnosed bpd)
anyways, very glad i stumbled across this little corner of the internet, thank you for your hard work and dedication to making this <3
holy fucking shit. reading that my work could give you comfort during a heavy depressive episode means so much to me.
I know the feel, many of haley's thoughts and struggles are also things taken directly from my life, and overall there's a lot of self-inserting happening, hence the sludge of personality disorders on display lmao
Thank you for taking the time to write out your comment, stay safe and see ya around <3
Jesus fuck, another amazing work of art by you. It took me a little bit to get invested but this is right behind "She Was Swallowed By The Sun" for me. Went on for way longer than I expected (not a bad thing).
Welp. I feel like my heart has been hollowed out with a fucking melon baller. Playing this felt like encountering something bigger than it should be, like a hidden timeless classic or an eldritch god or something- that probably doesn’t make sense. This is operating on frequencies so far above me I can’t parse them but I can still feel the reverberations.
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(Also somehow you made the girl who shot her dick, the least fucked up of the group?!!)
I need to take a shower and lie in the dark for a week lol.
This will be on my mind for a while. You’ve made something special. I hope you all are okay.
Awww you're lovely <3 Yeah, we're all alright meaning there for each other and alive! I'm really honored to hear how much it affected you and how deep it resonated hehe
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I don't think i will ever read something as impactful to me as this. The ending made me almost suffocate from the range of emotions.its so fucked. Its good. I love it :)
I could tell while I was playing this that I was going to have no idea how to write a review for it. There's so much in this story and it encompasses so many emotions that I feel like I don't have the words to easily sum up how I felt after reading it. There's enough in here to write an entire essay about. I actually had to take breaks while playing it because it was just too tense to play all in one go - I remember when I took one and then loaded it up again an hour later and immediately went "HOW AM I ONLY HALFWAY THROUGH?!" I felt like I had no idea how long it was going to be or how far through I was, which admittedly was a little frustrating, but I think strengthened the themes really well. The good and the bad started to blend together a bit and it felt like watching lives play out rather than reading a story, I had no way of telling what was going to happen next so everything felt like a surprise.
The cycles of better again, worse again, better again, worse again were really intense. It was nerve-wracking watching some people get better while others got worse, or some people get worse while others got better. The whole thing felt like watching someone balance plates and just waiting to see which one fell first. It tied in well with the...puppygirl factory? Which I did keep wanting to see explained but wasn't holding my breath for, since I could tell it was very metaphorical in nature. Where there's a cyclical churn of some sort going on. It really did feel like it highlighted how disposable society tends to view trans people as.
I think my favorite scene was the one where everyone was coming to Audrey for help, it was so nerve-wracking. It was soooooo much to watch her get increasingly drunk as just about everyone she knew started coming to her for advice on stuff.
THAT'S THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENED TO ME! Had to take a couple breaks only to come back the next day and see that there was still so much more.
I really had no idea what to expect from this game and I have no idea what I really got out of it. But I'm so glad I finished it.
I've played some fucked up games before and honestly I think the actual content in this game isn't nearly as bad as some other stuff out there. But it still FEELS like the most fucked up game I've ever played. It's not the content, it's the context that makes playing through this oh so agonizing.
Yeah, I agree - I've definitely played games that have more disturbing content in them (though this one definitely does have some disturbing content). It's more the oppressive feeling of tension without release.
This review addresses some very major events of the game that you should not spoil yourself on. please play loner dog before reading this, i give it as full of an endorsement as i possibly can.
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This was one of the most painful and beautiful works of art i have ever had the joy of reading. the music, both the cgs and character portarits, the aesthetic of this game is seared into my mind. the dithering is really fucking cool too. but enough about the beauty, on to the pain.
These are some of the most painfully real characters i have ever witnessed. every girl in this story is a real person, i've witnessed the patterns and archetypes of them many times before in my life. i know almost all of these girls without having met them. almost all of them are good people (fuck leah), and yet they continue to hurt each other. you can't blame anyone here for being like this, for being ruined girlthings with destructive habits. yet that only makes seeing things fall apart all the more painful. no one deserves any of this.
On a lighter note about the character writing, its really fucking funny too. i love these idiots so much.
Haley was both one of the most cathartic and wounding characters i have ever encountered. seeing her felt liberating. for so long i had felt like what was wrong with me was a unique failing, it was something i had never witnessed in other people, it felt like the act of exposing the fact i was like this to anyone else would destroy me, would actualise the fear of abandonment. they would revile me for this and be completely justified. getting to witness someone else that was like this changed that. there are so many thoughts i have had that she expressed nearly verbatim.
But god, seeing her was also so agonising. getting to witness her tearing apart her life, be abandoned by the vileness of the world and the apathy of those who claimed to love her, watching her realise her lack of a purpose or drive. all of this felt like watching it happen to me. the version of my self that lived in a worse life, that didn't have someone to love it, would have ended up like this, i can see it so clearly.
Deciding to read this with my wife was a great descision, because i think witnessing haley's suicide alone would have broken me for days. both of us agreed that it felt like watching me die. the same was true for the funeral service and the burial. seeing this happen to her is the strongest deterrant i could ever find for letting myself get worse.
Much like she was swallowed by the sun, this made me way weirder. that game helped begin the process of de-repressing my sexuality, of letting me realise that i am in fact this weird. loner dog sped up that process, make me realise that i am undeniably this much of a freak and i love it.
please never stop making art for fucked up girlthings like us <3
I love you too, I'll cherish what we've shared forever <3
I fucking SCREAMED when I finished reading your comment
my chest feels warm. knowing loner dog and haley specifically are an anchor against getting worse for you makes me tear up and feel like it's all worth it.
I'm also really happy to hear it accelerated your de-repressing hehehe <3
Fr tho fuck Leah
What a cathartic, life changing game. There are tears streaming my face as I'm writing this not even ten minutes after finishing. This will forever be seared into my mind.
An elegy until it's an anthem.
What a game. I can't find the words to properly share how much I loved this. Thank you. I'll be thinking about it for a long, long time.
A small friend group of the worst people you’ve ever met goes around enabling the worst things about one another.
I feel sorry for Haley, Aubrey and Noni, everyone else can rot.
Which is telling, because 5 minutes into the game I hated Aubrey, but by the end I realized the alcoholic that accidentally shot her dick off is actually the sane one.
girl what the fuck did riley do
"the worst people you've ever met" is extremely accurate and exactly how I'd describe this game. But then they show you WHY these people are so fucked up and how they ultimately never had a chance in the first place. By the end of it all I couldn't bring myself to hate any of them.
Except for like Leah, Agro, Roaches, Noise, basically that whole friend group.
I just finished it. Almost threw up, cried my eyes out, felt my stomach turn more times than I can remember. and yet, this game is genuinely a masterpiece. I loved it, the depth is amazing. The relationships are written beautifully. as someone who has BPD, I related strongly to Argo and Nessa's relationship and could feel it deep in my heart and stomach, not to mention that I felt I could relate to each character at least once. I need more of this, there are definitely more things I want further explored but also I think it ended at a good spot so my need for more is entirely selfish. Amazing story, hated every character but I loved hating them because their reasonings and mindsets made sense while also having room to sympathize and relate to them. Im just rambling now and repeating myself, I loved this story so much. Awesome work. awesome visuals, and my favorite moment was everyone texting Audrey at the same time, it was art and I loved it and I could feel how overwhelming it must've been.
first hour of this I doubted if I would like it at all, second hour I was writing tearful messages to all the tgirls in my life about how none of them were allowed to die. 10/10 experience fucked me up on a spiritual level.
One thing I didn't say in my review: this game came to me at a time that I've been truly on the edge mentally for a while. For me, at least, it's been as bad as it's been in a long time. Every character in this game resonated with part of my experience, a very poor, queer, freak. This game made me reflect on my own sadness, my own ways of coping, and even inspired envy in me as someone who wishes deeply that I had more people in my life on my level of freak (I have yet to make a friend who does, though I have gotten close). No idea if it was in the intentions, but as dysfunctional as it is, there is a community portrayed in this game that is built on helping each other survive, no matter what that takes.
Oh god this really hit close to home. I feel like you really captured a lot of the nuances of being trans and queer on the margins of society. I see a lot of myself in basically all of the characters in the game. At some points it almost felt like I was seeing scenes from my life played out on screen.
Your writing is fucking excellent. Everybody felt like a real person with their own personality. In a lot of games with a lot of characters I'll start getting people confused, but that just straight up didn't happen here. I also somewhat unconsciously attached people I know irl to these characters, which made certain scenes hit way harder for me.
I also really liked the way the text boxes are layed out, I don't think I've ever seen that done in a visual novel before, and you execute it masterfully. It definitely helps to have a lot of the text conversations laid out like actual text messages, and I like how you can move everything around to better organize it.
Also the soundtrack, I love it! Is there anywhere that I could find it online?
I said this about another one of your games, but I find your work to be aspirationally good. It captures the essence of being a weird druggy puppy and all the trappings that come with that. I look forward to see whatever you and the folks on ur team work on next!!!
thank you so much for the high praise! I'm happy to hear how it all resonated with you hehe
as for the music, I maintain a google sheet with all songs I ever used. About 2/3rds of the loner dog music was licensed, but the last third was custom-written and you can find that portion on bandcamp!
It fucking warms my heart to be told my work is aspirational to you. Sadly haven't gotten around to playing your stuff after wasteland girls, but I really liked what I saw there already so I'm sure you'll do even greater things :3
This was genuinely very beautiful. I was honestly expecting something just okay, or unpleasant, but this was so, so, so incredibly well-written!
As others have probably said, the character writing and world-building in general was so fleshed-out in a way that made these characters feel more human. Even their "unpleasant" parts stem from somewhere, and don't come off as being used for shock value.
Thought this was going to just be edgey yurislop... but this is a yurigem!
This was absolutely amazing. Horrible and raw and painful and beautiful and grounded and real in all the best ways, which only makes the occasional surreal moments hit all the harder for it, forcing you to resolve what the fuck it all means rather than just passively reading.
(editing in a longer one from discord now i'm less of a mess in the immediate aftermath lol)
I came to write this after being moved to tears many many many many times by LONER_DOG and felt the need to like, express my absolute unadulterated love for it. There's a beautifully brutally honest way it shows these absolute fucking disasters making mistake after painful mistake that just... It feels so raw and horribly true to the lives of myself and other traumatised queers around me.
I often get called a miserable edgelord or whatever, with certain spheres of the greater queer community disparaging the fact that i can't get myself to deeply engage with innocent wholesome fluffy works of art. This is one of those pieces that shows exactly why I can't immerse myself in works like that, because when have our lives ever not been messy and unfair? What honest depiction of queer joy and love could possibly be complete without showing the pain and struggle that defines so much of our lives? To sanitise our existence is to diminish that joy and glory, cheapen it by making it look so damn easy and to make a mockery of those of us who don't always get happy endings.
The scene of Audrey and Maya trying to talk Haley down lingers in my mind. I've been each side of that awful fucking situation at different points in my life; burning bridges amid my self-destruction, or having to cut myself off from someone I've loved who will destroy me if I let them drag me down with them, or feeling the long-suffering exhaustion of desperately trying to save someone who makes you genuinely miserable because how the hell could you live with doing nothing? The fact that it doesn't end well only makes it more painfully real. I haven't had to bury any of my friends yet, but that's probably only because I don't fully know what happened when the direst cases stopped replying and disappeared forever.
I see a lot of myself reflected in Haley, an uncomfortable amount really. I've always found safety and comfort in power, in hurting those I love however I can to keep them in my grasp. I know that jealousy, I know that self-hatred, I feel the ever present allure of making the world go away in an ugly blaze of addiction and destruction. But I've also made it farther than plenty of other girls with shallower scars than me. And while ageing has always terrified me, this game has made me very, very, very proud to have made it a lot of the way towards my 30s. Thank you so much for this piece of art, Snek. It's going to stick with me for a long, long time.
I picked this up because I needed something fucked up to help me process my trauma and I am weightless now. I have been ranting and raving to my entire friend group about the experience as I play.
Every character here is human, flawed and wonderful in their own ways. They remind me of my friends, but way more messed up. They also remind me of myself, and how I have felt the way many of them have, and acted the ways they have. I also hate (complimentary) how kinetic the use of multiple text boxes and image pop ups was. Truly using the medium to convey something in a way mere words can't. I'm amazed. I'm inspired. I'm exhausted.
Thank you for this. <3
Oh my god. Fuck. God. Fuck.
Thank you <3
extremely real and raw and visceral in a way that made me rly emotional and rly inspired to make more scrungly art!!!
i usually bounce off of this genre of like, transgressive messy tgirl hyperviolent wacky sex stuff narrative but i rly rly resonated with some bits here and am rly grateful i got to have and share this experience with other beautiful women!!!!!!
deffo my fave of the vn jam games ive played so far, and god i love the audio/visual design so much, totally gonna cop everyone you linked on bandcamp in the credits x3
absolutely phenomenal work!!!!!!!!!!woawoaow
waow. masterpiece. im going to live forever btw
<3<3<3<3
There is a vibe this game has that I've really been looking for and only now have found. The vibe in question being a sense of apathy and misery both in the world and characters. While I don't like everything about this game, those dislikes are more of a taste thing and not objective criticism. To me, this story was simply a group of (mostly) friends who get their shitty and mentally I'll existence pounded by life. It seems that Hailey and Maya are the main focus for this story due to the jam it was submitted to, but almost all the other characters are subject to complicated and shitty relationships. And the dynamics and interactions between these individuals are extremely interesting to see.
Something I was really surprised with was how a not small number of characters were each written to be memorable and behave uniquely. If you told me a character's name, I could instantly put a face to it and tell you about their personality and what they did in the story, that is not an easy thing to pull off as a writer. I was also surprised at the comedy this game was able to pull off, especially with Audrey, I think I audibly laughed like 2-3 times during this thing.
Story aside, the game was made really well. I liked the game's style and its art, and if I recall correctly I only caught one spelling mistake. What I didn't like however was the use of things like "LMAO" or keyboard spamming in the voice lines. I don't mind it when characters are texting of course, but when it's in-person dialogue it just felt weird, I suppose this is a preference however.
Great job to everyone involved in this game's creation, and if it's not a problem, I'd love to ask questions about the writing process.
Thanks for your thoughts hehe :3 I'm really glad the vibe and characters stuck with you nya
You can totally hit me up on my socials in DMs if you wanna chat about writing, preferrably bsky or maybe discord if you find me via the jam servers
Well I wasn't expecting a game jam game I picked up at near random just because the art ruled to actually be a genuinely excellent work of fiction by any metric but wow okay here we are!
Damn, all of these screwed up mentally ill characters feel so painfully real and lovable and it hurts so much to see them ruin their lives but it makes those rare moments of warmth so delightful. The bleak, sometimes cozily bleak atmosphere is phenomenal and the writing is routinely beautiful, haunting, and hilarious. This is just a damn solid piece of work.
Anyways I will now vaguely spoil things.
I love Maya and Haley's relationship, where you think the "owner" is the independent one and if you squint there are these hints that Haley is genuinely worried about Maya being abused by Roaches... but all of that light is utterly snuffed out by her manic insecurity. Maya's later sentiment, that she loves Haley dearly but can't be what she needs, is so heartbreakingly true to life.
I feel like I have an Argo paragraph in me, but like nah, it's just a vibe? Love Argo, it's so cool and kind but so empty and anxious and it's so so easy to feel for it and get inside its head. I love that little conversation with its armchair therapist about how its relationship problems stem from it having no inner core and struggling to understand how more complete people feel. And I've gotta feel a kinship with a vegan (I think) character who has existentially terrifying genetics.
And yet still, I think I identified with Audrey the most. That scene at the canyon, where everyone trusts the cool, responsible* friend to lend them an ear... Oof, I touched on it with Maya but this game absolutely nails the pain of really caring about people who have terrible mental health, unable to do anything for them without destroying yours. That scene was absolutely harrowing AND ALSO VERY FUNNY but god it was such a vivid nightmare- Absolutely delightful use of the chat window UI to make this one scene into such compelling chaos.
Finally, the ending is just beautiful. Like, y'know... Sometimes the things we can do for people aren't enough, but sometimes they are, and there's nothing to do but carry our grief and be kind where we can. Damn.
Damn...
An excellent showing by everyone involved. Thank you for making art!
Just stayed up way too late playing through this. Incredible. Too tired to word things well but you write dialogue so real and many points throughout the story felt like being stabbed. Was captivated the whole time. Also rlly great visual/audio direction, and incredibly funny. The way everything was individual windows was extremely fun. Incredibly entertained by the unfortunate coincidence web of mutual tgirl connections bc it really is just like that sometimes.
We've said this about a lot of people's games but the love for fucked up girls rlly comes through and is lovely. We really love all of these characters. <3
edit: God yeah this is still sticking with us the next morning. Not many more coherent thoughts but auuugh!! waugh!! its good.
god i love this so much im so glad i found it
the art work, the moveable dialogue boxes, the many conversations going on at once, the updates of others' lives periodically, the EVERYTHING!!!!111!! the aesthetic is so good you nailed it. also the ost?? banger.
i relate to them all a bit so much, i love nessa she is me i am her. i need more of her tbh, please. xelia is SO FUCKING COOL TOO i wanna be her friend. the characters all feel like they're alive even outside of the game and before i even get to know them and im getting to see a snapshot of their lives and i love it so much. sorry, i keep saying love because its TRUE this is a gem, my game of the year.
it makes me want to check out your other work now, you've got me as a fan. please keep creating <3
edit: its the next day and i still can't stop thinking about this <3
TLDR; This is astonishingly good and severely fucked up. If you are, or have been at some point, an outcast, queer, and terminally online, and you're down to read some fucked up shit, this will probably hit for you too.
LONG THOUGHTS RAMBLE:
I connected with the story so much more than i thought i would. At first i couldn't keep track of all of the characters, but after sitting with them for a while, they are so much like people i've known and situations i've been in. Enough to make me reflect on my own life and my friends.
Can't say i've experienced the sheer level of violence present in most of the story. But playing text therapist for friends, new relationship mania, struggling to adapt to grief, devastating mood swings, wanting to help but not being able to -- all the emotions around that were so specific and hauntingly familiar.
Being able to write 5-8 main characters whose perspectives are switched between is a pretty incredible feat as well. Wouldn't have been the same without it. I think having everyones perspectives is what made me so reflective while reading this. When have I been in these situations, and what have I done?
The way everyone is deeply morally gray, deeply flawed, is so well written. Your first impression of someone may be that they're nasty, but later you see their redeeming qualities. Or you meet them and you're like "this person seems pretty nice" and then their awful qualities are revealed later on. It's impossible to be a perfect friend to your friends no matter how deeply you love. So many of these relationships get close to abusive but don't actually cross that line. And that feels reflective of the world -- people can vascilate between insensitive, loving, thoughtful, self-absorbed, and distractable so easily.
I have so many thoughts I'm definetly forgetting a whole chunk of them, but this review is plenty long. Thank you for creating this thing that is so unique and unfiltered in its beauty and its ugliness.
Also That scene between Nessa and Argo scratched such a specific itch for me with its combination of gentleness, emotional intimacy, and intoxicating violence -- thank you <3
Don't really know how to write comments, but gonna praise this work! it is soooo good. Haven't finished it but I very liked the aesthetics and design choices in this game, also the music! I honestly could sleep listening to some of them, great choices on those! The moveable dialogue boxes is pretty cool too, never seen those done in VNs i played before. The story is super messed up,, and so good,, The characters are awesome,, I LOVE it!! it makes me want to see through your previous games, and the next ones! also don't know how to end this comment. Thank you for reading! and making this game. puppyface :3
aaaaaaa tyyyyyy for the lovely comment!!!
I hope you enjoy your time with my other works too ehe, have fun looking at my tech stuff evolve over time lmao
just fyi, by now there's an OST on bandcamp and for all the licensed tracks I maintain this spreadsheet, in case you're really into some of the tracks uwu
puppyface :3
Only a few minutes into this and I could already see all the hard work you put into scripting and presentation that you were telling me about before, the different windows and pop-up notifications for different dialogues and narration boxes (which I could move around, super cool), the sprites as little square icons, everything including the sound design fucks very hard, it’s all gives such a vivid image of like… grunginess that I’m already acclimated to with your work, but you keep polishing it with every game, it’s really cool to see.
And of course the art is exceptional as usual, not just the purposefully simple and claustrophobic icons for each character, which show just enough for their personalities to come across, with some really nice backgrounds that had me guessing for a while; part of me thought they were different angles on a clock on each of those backgrounds lol. But still, both those and the CGs were gorgeous and really added to the feel of the VN.
Regarding the cast, they all immediately jump out at you, their personalities are loud and imposing, and with so many of them initially it feels a little hard to tell them apart aside from their portraits, but as I played the game I like that I began to differentiate their very specific brands of mind-rotedness and various neuroses (Haley’s burning anger which at first was hard to differentiate from the rest of the cast but now feels all the more present and tragic in retrospect, Nessa’s seemingly chill but also kind of jealous and vindictive attitude, Audrey’s weird maturity and desire to help despite not giving a shit about her body, etc.) and it’s your writing that really makes that work. Because as a story I definitely feel like you’re initially asking us to hang on a bit, to get to know these fuck-ups before passing quick judgment, kind of like Argo when it first meets them all in pretty much the same way the reader does. I thought that was a really neat way to portray that.
Also a quick aside to point out just how fucking funny this VN is. Like, there were so many out of left field lines and parts worthy of a screenshot, these fucking idiots are so entertaining when they’re not being horribly sad, sometimes both at the same time. “One of my friends shot herself in the dick” nearly made me choke.
And that kinda goes hand in hand with another thing I noticed that feels very real even if normally you’d think it seems unrealistic in writing, that being how when Argo and Nessa (or other combinations of characters) start talking for a while, that outer layer of internet irony and general disregard for everything slowly gives way to more genuine conversations and emotional dialogue, much like how sometimes it works when meeting new people. It’s arresting when it first comes up, to the point it felt a little sudden at first, but I’ve definitely had those types of shifts in conversation too.
I can definitely see the Dennis Cooper inspirations in this. I unfortunately haven’t had the chance to find copies of the George Miles cycle yet, even secondhand, and have only read The Sluts, but this strikes a very similar chord while still being very much your own game, sharply so. It was also really neat to see you tackle a more down to earth story (or as down to earth as all this shit can be) as opposed to your two previous Yuri Jam entries. The fascism and the awfulness of the world is still there of course, but in this one it’s more something the characters have to weather as they try to also weather themselves and each other, than anything they have a chance to strike against. And while the opposite is what I really praised ‘She was Swallowed by the Sun’ for, you really made sure to up the ante on the transgressive queer shit on this one, so I really have nothing to complain about, this was genuinely incredible and sickening in equal measures.
A lot of parts were very difficult to get through, and you can definitely take that as a compliment. Yet they weren’t the more graphic scenes, like all the cutting (which I did have to speed through a little) but the ones with just characters talking, which shows how strong the characterization and writing was for this one. Special shout-out to the absolutely horrible/funny/tragic part where Audrey is just trying to chill and ends up acting as a therapist for her entire friend group and inadvertently speaks to Haley for the last time. Without a doubt my favorite scene in the entire VN, my heart rate was a mess by the end.
Also on the topic of Audrey, I really love her. How is it that this idiot who shot her dick off is the one everybody comes to for advice? And it’s clearly not a new thing, it took me a while to recognize it but Audrey does have a certain… maturity? Emotional common sense? That makes her stand out amongst her friends because she’s the one everyone knows, and she’s the one kind of in the middle of all the drama without really partaking in it, and you can see how exhausting it is, I love it. I was kind of working on a similar character to her, so she quickly became one of my favorites. That, and that out of the entire cast she’s the most like the characters from your previous VNs.
“Nessa can’t remember when she last wanted to see Argo” Ouch. Just a very impactful and to the point line, really loved it.
Speaking of Nessa, I feel like she’s the only one from the group I didn’t get a very good understanding of by the end of the game. Maybe it’s because of her avoidant personality, but as the game progressed I felt kind of like Audrey, wanting her to step away from Argo a little so I could get a scene with her and her inner thoughts, her life and all that. Obviously there’s a bunch of characters already and it’s impossible to give all of them a lot of screentime, but I do wish we’d gotten a little more of Nessa, especially with how in-depth we got to know Argo.
One thing I wanna mention is that a lot of this game gave me the specific kind of ‘magical realism’ vibe where it’s not actually clear at any point if that’s what the setting is or where the story is going, as opposed to being blatant, which I love a lot, especially with The Hole and all of that. There was definitely a level of detachment at some points simply because of cultural differences in how queer groups are and act like, I think, but that never really got in the way because the characters were so entertaining.
A lot of this game is gonna stay with me for a while, as with your previous works. I feel like I still have to process what happened to these characters… If nothing else, your VNs never fail to inspire me to write and get better in that way, I always feel a bunch of ideas blooming in my head while I read your stuff.
Anyway uhhh this has been pretty rambly and long so far, so a few quick-fire thoughts before I go. For a second I thought Harsh Noise’s glyphs had something to do with SwSBTS? Roaches… I really don’t know how I feel about Roaches, I’ll be pondering on that, I did feel like Audrey toward her in some parts. Love Noni a lot. Fuck Leah. I loved how complex of a character Maya was. Yeah.
Cuppy dog city was not what it was advertised at in those tumblr posts, but I loved it nonetheless.
It feels tragically poetic to read your comment now. It's the last comment on LD before all adult content on itch was delisted, and I wouldn't want anyone else but you to have that ..."honor"... if you can call it that. I appreciate your deep and insightful thoughts always. It delights me to see that you found joy and humor in these idiots. I audibly lost my shit at reading your reports on the chaos of Audrey's catastrophe meltdown, I FUCKING LOVE how you read into all these things, and every single word you typed out here makes me feel all warm fuzzy and content inside.
That you're familiar with Dennis Cooper as an author is so sick actually? Hell yeah. Followed up by you describing the ways in which I still made this VN feel like my own is such a visceral and positive feeling. Thank you.
I share your point about Nessa, she's the one character I wish I had fleshed out a bit more, but such is the game jammy nature.
It's funny to bring up Noise's tattoos but yeah, this and the myopia games are totally distinct. I also thought about how LD and SWSBTS exist so diametrically opposed to one another in much the same ways you describe, and that definitely is also a reflection of my life at large. The things I experienced as I was writing WTSRTS/SWSBTS are notably different from the things I experienced in the last few months.
One thing I fucking love about your reviews is always giving me new words to chew on. I'm stupid as fuck when it comes to actual cultural canons outside of niche faggot games online, so you giving me "magical realism" to sink my teeth into understanding will definitely be a thing now that I'll use to maybe even retroactively understand my own work better, who knows.
Ultimately, inspiring you to write, setting ideas off to bloom, as you put it, is one of the most beautiful things for me to hear. Thank you for your time and words, ttyl <3
I just finished reading through this and... wow. It was a lot. Your writing is beautiful. I loved seeing the narration just tell me what all the different characters were doing at that given time... and I loved the focus on many different characters, seeing their lives intertwine in interesting ways. I also want to shout out the scene where Argo and Nessa do acid together. That was beautiful; not just the way you wrote it, but also the sort of visual overlay you put over the scene for the fractals and stuff. There's so much going on in this one, I don't know what else to say other than amazing work. I feel hollowed out by it all (positive).
hehehe thank you! the "small update enumeration on all characters" thing is a device I straight up lifted from Guide by Dennis Cooper, and it actually also helped me keep the plot straight during development lmao. I'm glad you liked it :3
Shoutout to The psychedelic anomaly on godotshaders for the acid overlay
I thank you for feeling hollowed out (positive) <3
The characters felt like they have lived, not in a physical sense but that they have thoroughly had their own unique sets of perspective and experiences, that they have all come together and have been severely fucked and trying to do the best they simply can.
No one character in this story is underdeveloped. Everyone has a distinct personality, flaws, and characteristics. I especially loved the portraits for every character, which gives them so much life.
The pure, raw, unadulterated emotions radiating through the text kept me yearning for each next line. I read this all in one go, and I cannot count the times I was awestruck by the characters and story
An excellent VN. Horribly amazing. Emotionally Charged. God. I wish I could read this again. I want to read this again.
FUck yes I am so happy you enjoyed your time with all the characters <3 likewise, I am awestruck at your compliments ehehehe~~ thank you for the kind words >.<
This is one of the best visual novels I've ever read. The CGs are so good and every character feels like a real person I know and wish I didn't.
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I just wanted to say that this has been the best thing I've read all year and it's so wonderful and fantastic and it just spoke to me in a way that many thing haven't. I love it and it's one of my favorite VNs of all time, I'm gonna go and read everything this author has ever made now :3
you're a treasure, I hope you enjoy my other works :3
idk where to begin with this other than to say that this is my favorite piece of art ive experienced this year
finished it in one sitting and then thought abt it for a few hours and went to bed, i then woke up n almost immediatly burst into tears cos i was thinking abt everything in this game n how beautiful, sad and overwhelming it all is.
i can't overstate how close to home this all hit for me, every character feels like a different part of me or someone ive known, the entire game made me feel so uncomfortably seen and understood for who i am and the way my brain works in a way very few things have.
love as violence and violence as love
i hope this is somewhat comprihensible im kinda just rambling cos this affected me a lot, thank you so much for making art like this its so special <3
also seeing it/its protags makes me so happy n seen :'3
love as violence and violence as love, you put it beautifully yourself <3
It floors me to read your comment, and I'm eternally glad I could make you feel a little more understood in this cruel world nya~ felt a dire drought of it/its protags (also for personal reasons myself hehe) and you pointing it out feels so comfy ehe
Your words fill me with warmth and I thank you so so much for reading and leaving a comment ^^
the first VN i played for this jam and im glad it was. it’s brutal, honest, stylish, personal, and about as intense as the name suggests. after reading this, i realize that it makes sense that the snuff girlies have an insightful and touching understanding of death, and, by proxy, life. will definitely be revisiting this dev (after some time to recover, bc. woof!)
woof woof <3
A really wonderful experience that played to the strengths of the creators. Messy, brutal, overwhelming and mundane feelings. i was very impressed with how cohesive everything felt, and how engaging the writing was. thank you for sharing.
Thank you for your comment, those are some lovely adjectives hehe
I'm glad you enjoyed your time with it uwu
Really good, hurt a lot
Not finished yet but oh my fucking god I am the most Haley coded girl of all time, another Snek classic
Is there hope for an Android version? I would really love to play this as it looks to be right up my alley
Hi, thanks for your interest :3 Just uploaded the android version. I hope you'll enjoy!
OH MY GOD
THANK YOU SO MUCH
i only just now read this yesterday, i immediately downloaded it and went through it in one singular sitting!
It's perfect, thank you so much for creating this, i absolutely loved this and the strong message at the end!
I am excited what you will make in the futue!
also holy hell you made this for free??? i will definitely drop some money on the next project i download from you then! well deserved!
hehe thank you! I'm glad you got around to enjoying it so much ^^
I used to have donations enabled but itch.io (or payment processors rather) made it against ToS to pay for adult games, so it's just all free now. I have a patreon set up as kinda a tip jar, and anyone can still donate through my sfw projects,tho I never expect anyone to
glad to have you here :3
jesus fucking christ this is so good. It's definitely one of those if-you-get-it-you-get-it games for sure. I really appreciate so much of it. It feels like a shattered mirror of a game to me, and though some of the pieces aren't necessarily pointed at me, the ones that are reflect with crystal clarity. The writing is really good, it did such an amazing job of weaving together multiple scenes happening simultaneously in a way that didn't feel confusing at all, everything just flowed so well together.
The sheer pain, misery, anguish of the girls and dogs living not just in hell but in a decaying corpse of a world is so potent. To me, Snek is best at portraying these dead, rotting worlds following girls and its whose freakish nature puts them in the funnel of reality's meat grinder, desperately trying to claw their way out and bring as many others with them as they can. Loner Dog feels almost like the logical endpoint of that concept, a definite peak in it's portrayal of this from the few of it's games I've played. It's violently hopeless to me, a constant assertion of the impossibility of a meaning besides to help your fellow sister and try to enjoy the little of life you can squeeze into the margins you've been shoved into; "you deserve a tomorrow worth knowing" is a chapter title that really really stuck with me for sure. The little bits of hope or kindness in the game are fought for tooth and nail, the characters have to go far out of their way for it almost always, and when not it's often just a bandaid on the bullet hole, something to try and ease the pre-existing overwhelming pain of their situation. A few of the situations were uncannily realistic, written in a way that shows a real familiarity and understanding of them, the fucked-up-ness of it. "The world is not a gentle place" is another chapter title that stood out to me; not only is it not a gentle place, it is actively cruel and antagonistic towards the happiness and existence of these characters, as reality often feels to myself and many others like me.
As for characters, I really really like all of them honestly. All of them feel like people I've either been or met, and they feel so raw and real, freaks like those I know and love, if not a bit more intense. The intensity serves the aesthetic and feeling of the story quite well though. Haley's story is especially tragic as I'm sure anyone who's played it would agree, but it's a familiar tragedy. All too familiar, a zing from moving in a direction my deeper scars make difficult from nerve damage, if that makes sense. Harsh Noise might be my favorite character because of just how checked out they are the whole time, they're really cool I think even though they're kind of just on the sidelines the whole time save for a couple scenes. Their tats are so cool, also I have an affinity for using "Noise" as a name because of things in my own life, so I just kind of immediately thought they were cool.
The music is really really well done and chosen, I want to use them for background music when I'm talking to friends a lot of the time now. The art is so good and fits it so well. I could gush about this game endlessly. Amazing work. Another one I'll likely be thinking about for a long time after this.aaaaaaaaaaaaa !!!!!!! gosh your comment feels unreal. Thank you, truly from the bottom of my heart, for your words jfc
I could gnaw at all the things you wrote forever, and how warm it makes me feel to see an interpretation as deep and thorough as you've presented here. I really struggle to meaningfully reply to you besides going "aaa yes we're all fucked up I'm glad you fuck with this game <3" to everything you wrote, but I hope this conveys
Seeing the meanings of chapter titles and nihilism and character arcs reflected back at me in such an empathetic lens feels so wonderful. Thank you for your words Palette >.<
One thing I love is how everyone talks about different characters they see themselves in / are their faves. You're the first to bring up Noise and that's so cool of you <3
I also updated the song credits spreadsheet I keep for easy access. Might have to look into an OST release lmao
This game was genuinely so crazy I'm still thinking through everything. The character portraits and backgrounds are so good and evocative, the characters are all so great and horrible and fucked up. It brought up a lot of memories and emotions about trans community, I full cried like, 3 times. It also really makes me want to try making something myself again, truly a really exceptional piece of art. It's the first game of yours I've played (via going through game jam submissions) and I need to now check out the others.
Thank you so much for your comment, it means so much to me to hear how much you've been affected <3 I'd love to see you get inspired and also make some art!!!! (tag me if you do :3)
I'm still processing it but goddamn that was an amazing vn, was just gonna read a little bit of it but ended up not being able to put it down and read it all in one go. this is def gonna be stuck in my brain for the next few weeks
omg I'm so flattered >////<
Thank you for your words, I'm glad it stuck in your brain hehe
Honestly like, HOLY FUCK!!! I very rarely play things with such intense CWs (and I very nearly didn't finish the game because of them) but I'm very glad I did. What an unabashed exploration into sexuality, grief, and queerness. The things these characters did made me sick, but the context in which these characters were forced to endure and try to survive in made it all make sense. I don't know if I "understood it" exactly as you intended and there's always the chance that it was just a fun way to explore some more fucked up kinks (and even then, more power to you!) but I do think that there is IMMENSE value in the story being told. How people endure in such a fucked up and downright fucking EVIL society (the hole, holy fuck.) would be equally as fucked up, and it's not hard to see the parallels to what Trans and Queer people have to endure day-to-day. What a story, fuck.
Fuck yes this is awesome to read!! I feel honored you stuck with it to the end hehe
And I can absolutely confirm, it's not just exploring fucked up kinks (tho that's also fun); There are so many thoughts about queerness and transness and community I poured into this lmao
Thanks for commenting uwuwu
came across this randomly late last night during a pretty heavy depressive episode, didn't expect to find such a beautiful piece of media. it comforted me significantly and will most likely stick with me as a comfort piece. the music helped drown out the bad thoughts, discovered a new coping mechanism and im not against it. even the day after the game and its writing is still painted into my brain magically and hauntingly wonderful
without spoilers i can relate to a good chunk of the characters and their more emotional moments,'specially haley with recent events in my life. (
as well as the large possibility that i am undiagnosed bpd)anyways, very glad i stumbled across this little corner of the internet, thank you for your hard work and dedication to making this <3
holy fucking shit. reading that my work could give you comfort during a heavy depressive episode means so much to me.
I know the feel, many of haley's thoughts and struggles are also things taken directly from my life, and overall there's a lot of self-inserting happening,
hence the sludge of personality disorders on display lmaoThank you for taking the time to write out your comment, stay safe and see ya around <3
ofc, right back at you <3
Jesus fuck, another amazing work of art by you. It took me a little bit to get invested but this is right behind "She Was Swallowed By The Sun" for me. Went on for way longer than I expected (not a bad thing).
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Welp. I feel like my heart has been hollowed out with a fucking melon baller. Playing this felt like encountering something bigger than it should be, like a hidden timeless classic or an eldritch god or something- that probably doesn’t make sense. This is operating on frequencies so far above me I can’t parse them but I can still feel the reverberations.
Spoilers
(Also somehow you made the girl who shot her dick, the least fucked up of the group?!!)
I need to take a shower and lie in the dark for a week lol. This will be on my mind for a while. You’ve made something special. I hope you all are okay.
Awww you're lovely <3 Yeah, we're all alright meaning there for each other and alive! I'm really honored to hear how much it affected you and how deep it resonated hehe
I’m so glad to hear that! Yeah it got me deep, I’ve been thinking about LONER DOG near constantly since I played it yesterday lol.